Talk:Baseball

Level 5 vital baseball biographies

Taking a look today at Wikipedia's choice of 55 vital baseball biographies. See here. It struck me that there are some notable exclusions and questionable inclusions. Before proposing any changes, I'd be interested in feedback. Here are some candidates:

Notable exclusions

Name	Career WAR	SABR 100	Bill James	TSN 100	ESPN 100	Athletic	Comments
Eddie Collins	13	49	18	24	82	29	All-time MLB leader in sacrifice hits and assists at 2B; 10th all time in WAR among position players
Frank Robinson	23	24	24	22	19	20	Only player to be MVP in both AL (1966) and NL (1961); first black manager in MLB
Mike Schmidt	25	16	21	28	18	20	3x NL MVP, 10x Gold Glove, 8x NL HR leader
Lefty Grove	25	33	19	23	54	22	Ranks 6th all time in WAR for pitchers; 2x Triple Crown, 9x AL ERA leader, 7x AL strikeout leader
Albert Pujols	29	na	na	na	30	23	3x NL MVP; ranks second in MLB history in RBIs (2,217), total bases (6,211), and intentional walks (316), and fourth in home runs (703)
Joe Morgan	31	37	15	60	37	21	2x NL MVP, Bill James ranked him the greatest 2B of all time; ranks 5th in MLB history in walks and 11th in stolen bases
Johnny Bench	83	19	44	16	29	30	2x NL MVP, 10x Gold Glove
Oscar Charleston	341	NR	4	67	53	5	Arguably the greatest player from the Negro leagues; .364 batting average ranks No. 2 all time, trailing only Ty Cobb; Bill James ranks him as the No. 4 baseball player of all time -- ahead of Cobb
Turkey Stearnes	324		25				Ranks 5th in MLB history with a .616 career slugging percentage and 7th with a .348 career batting average; 7× Negro NL HR leader

Questionable inclusions

Name	Career WAR	SABR 100	Bill James	TSN 100	ESPN 100	Athletic	Comments
Jean Faut	na	na	na	na	na	na	One of four women included; doubtful in my mind that all four should be included, though I admittedly am not particularly knowledge about women's baseball
Dorothy Kamenshek	na	na	na	na	na	na	See comments above re Faut
Sophie Kurys	na	na	na	na	na	na	See comments above re Faut
Jackie Mitchell	na	na	na	na	na	na	See comments above re Faut
Hideo Nomo	NR	na	NR	na	NR	NR	Notable for opening door to MLB for Japanese players, but we have more deserving Japanese players already on the list in Sadaharu Oh and Ichiro Suzuki; questionable as one of the 55 most important players
Shohei Ohtani	836	na	NR	na	NR	NR	Notable as a two-way player (pitcher and batter) and 2021 AL MVP, but questionable as one of 55 most important players of all time
Roger Maris	593	NR	NR	NR	NR	NR	Two great seasons in 1960 and 1961 but clearly not one of the 55 most important players of all-time; benefits from Yankees bias on the list
Yogi Berra	195	26	41	40	39	43	Beloved catcher for great Yankees teams but barely makes the top 200 in WAR; benefits from pro-Yankees bias
Shoeless Joe Jackson	167	52	66	35	89	NR	Heightened notoriety from Black Sox scandal
Ed Walsh	136	85	NR	82	NR	NR	Had three great seasons (including a record 60-win season), but doesn't rank in top 55 according to anyone
Charles Radbourn	80	NR	NR	NR	NR	NR	Doesn't seem to fit in top 55 of all time in any category
Cap Anson	39	NR	NR	NR	76	NR	39th all-time in WAR is solid, but not ranked in top 100 by SABR, Bill James, or TSN

Thoughts? Cbl62 (talk) 04:07, 9 July 2023 (UTC) Cbl62 (talk) 04:07, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2024

This link is amazing but they need to make one for youth because there are some different rules for the youth and i think it would be amazing for younger kids

-thank you 50.227.169.170 (talk) 20:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2024

In 2022 the NL adopted the designated hitter from the AL. Pitchers on a National League team will no longer have to hit. Amatthews0926 (talk) 15:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 16:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

The Baseball Cube

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to start this conversation but ChatGPT made this suggestion to me :-). At a certain point, my web site, The Baseball Cube was actively linked on many baseball pages on Wikipedia. TBC provides an interesting view of player histories for Major Leaguers, Minor Leaguers and College Players. Complete stats, player bios and much much more.

I was wondering if someone thought that TBC would be a good source for the External Links section of player pages (or any other baseball page). I think the old TBC links were no longer valid (my oversight) when it had its own template.

Pardon the self-promotion. I honestly believe that the site would be beneficial to baseball article readers as supplemental information for each player. Let me know your thoughts. TBC34 (talk) 22:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

This question would be better posed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball. Mindmatrix 12:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)